[Zachary Gibbons]

Statement: I opened up a new topic for this, because the old one was clogging up the It's the Mind thread.

Originally Posted by Zachary Gibbons

Advisory: And try not to invoke "common sense". Common sense tells us such wonderful things as "heavy objects fall faster than light objects", and they don't.

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Hmm, Zack I always thought you were brighter than that. Yes common sense can be invoked in that respect as long as we are intelligent enough to acknowledge that the denser object will fall faster.

Originally Posted by Zachary Gibbons

Despairing Statement: Oh, deary, deary me. Take two spheres of equal volume, one lead and one balsa wood. Drop them both off the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Which hits the ground first? (Hint: they hit at the same time).

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

In a vacuum. In the atmosphere the outcome is much different . The less dense object will fall slower because of air resistance assuming they are the same weight.
I'll get to the rest of the argument later, I gotta go right now.

Observation: They're not the same weight. Didn't you read it? two spheres of equal volume with different densities. This is the experiment that Galileio famously performed (although he didn't really); hence the reference to the Tower of Pisa.

Statement: It is true that objects with a large surface area have a lower maximum falling speed - but "common sense" tells us that larger objects are heavier, so heavy objects will tend to fall slower than light objects.

[hani]

Why do you always put Statement: or Observation: before a post? I've always wondered that.

[Zachary Gibbons]

Query: Is this really the place to ask that? However...
Answer: It's an homage to that great droid, HK-47. And I've done it for... well, ages. I couldn't possibly stop now.
(Observation: Speaking of "really the place", this only went in RPP because the thread that spawned it was in RPP. We could do with a Science forum, or expanding the Technology forum to Science and Tech.)

[Spoon]

does this really belong in the philosphy, religeon and politics forum? prehapes there should be a science thread.

[Zachary Gibbons]

Originally Posted by Zachary Gibbons

Observation: Speaking of "really the place", this only went in RPP because the thread that spawned it was in RPP. We could do with a Science forum, or expanding the Technology forum to Science and Tech.

Originally Posted by drproctor

does this really belong in the philosphy, religeon and politics forum? prehapes there should be a science thread.

Exasperated Request: Please read the topic before posting.

[iiBardeepii]

A sky remote fallys faster then a sony tv one.

[WheelsOfTerror]

Originally Posted by user name

A sky remote fallys faster then a sony tv one.

In order for your test to be accurate both would have to have equal volume, be dropped at exactly the same time, and be dropped from exactly the same hieght. Something may have gone wrong.

I thought I read somewhere in a science textbook that Acceleration of Gravity is 9.8 m/s. This means that all free falling objects reach that speed before hitting the ground. This means that if if two objects of the same volume if dropped at the same time from the same hieght they should hit the ground at the same time

I could be wrong through its been a few years since I've studied this.

[Zachary Gibbons]

Originally Posted by wheelsofterr

I thought I read somewhere in a science textbook that Acceleration of Gravity is 9.8 m/s. This means that all free falling objects reach that speed before hitting the ground. This means that if if two objects of the same volume if dropped at the same time from the same hieght they should hit the ground at the same time.

Clarification: Acceleration is not the same as speed; the value is 9.8 m/s/s, meaning that a falling object picks up an extra 9.8 m/s of speed downwards for every second it's in the air. However, since the Earth's gravitic field gets weaker the further away from the centre you travel, it's only 9.8 m/s/s at sea level. (Variation over a few hundred metres is negligible, though, especially since "9.8" has been rounded off anyway.)
Statement: However, drag, friction or air resistance limits the maximum speed an object can fall at, hence the term "terminal velocity", or final speed. This drag is determined by surface area and the shape of that area. If there was no air, you could keep on accelerating, at least until you hit the ground. So yes, any two objects with the same volume and surface area, whatever their differing weights, will hit the ground at the same time if dropped from the same height.

[Spoon]

slightly irritated response: i reads ur topic and it still seems that this is not philosophy, religeon or politics
solution: move the thread

[Zachary Gibbons]

Rhetorical Query: What am I, a Mod? I already put in the request, now I can only wait.

[Lt. Kettch]

Originally Posted by drproctor

slightly irritated response: i reads ur topic and it still seems that this is not philosophy, religeon or politics
solution: move the thread

Admonishment: This forum is shortly to become Religion, Philosophy and Science, with politics moving to the news forum. And this thread is far more at home here than in General Chat, as the majority of scientific debate occurs here.

Observation: Your post is also worthless spam. If you feel a topic is in the wrong location, report it so that the staff can decide whether to move it or not, don't play vigilante.

[Owen Kaya]

Headbut through drywall: I misread your post and I was wrong. Let this thread die now and everyone except Zack stop doing the Query thing.

[Lt. Kettch]

Amen. Thread closed.